# Chain: Mind Vs Soul > *The soul, not the mind, is the seat of truth and the receiver of Divine Love* **The argument it traces:** The mind and soul are distinct faculties → the mind constructs and can obstruct → the soul knows and receives directly → truth and Divine Love come through the soul, not intellectual effort → the two minds are ultimately integrated into one consciousness **44** messages · **41** supporting · main statement not yet chosen --- ## Foundation ### 2015-10-12 - [[2015-10-12 The Difference Between the Material Mind and the Soul Mind|The Difference Between the Material Mind and the Soul Mind]] Delivered to answer a question put to the circle that evening about the difference between the two minds, which makes it the one message in the thread that sets out to define the distinction rather than to apply it. Two entities, not two faculties of one: "these are two distinct entities within one being, within all of you." The material mind described as developed and dominant, "all its attributes of the intellect and the perceptions of the senses... making sense of your lives, of the world and functioning within these human conditions. And this is what is predominant in your beings and consciousness." The soul's faculties present but unlit: "the soul is imbued with many qualities and attributes which mostly lie dormant without being ignited and brought to life by God's Divine Essence." The incapacity stated as a limit in kind rather than degree, which is the claim the whole thread rests on: the things of God "cannot be comprehended by the material mind, it requires a deeper understanding, something more expansive, something that is not the result of deduction and analysis. It is a knowing." What ignites it is not effort: "this Gift comes on the wings of Love as the Heavenly Father's Holy Spirit touches your souls, ignites this flame within you and opens your eyes. Eyes that have remained firmly shut without this touch of Love." And the outcome is not the mind's defeat but the two working together: "this awakening... brings about a symbiosis of consciousness that allows you... to comprehend with great and expansive understanding God's creation." Fence against [[Chains/Soul Faculties|Soul Faculties]]: that thread argues what the awakened soul can do, this one argues that the two consciousnesses are different in kind and that only one can know God. ## Elaboration ### 2015-10-26 - [[2015-10-26 Guidance about Our Choices in the Flow of God's Love|Guidance about Our Choices in the Flow of God's Love]] Belief is assigned to the mind and, on that basis, set aside: "Do not judge another soul for what they believe, for belief is of the mind and this, in time, you will see is irrelevant." What matters instead is a connection that runs beneath belief entirely, "It is that soul connection, your loving soul to their soul that is what is meant by being a channel of Love in the world." She then names what obstructs it, and the obstruction is also mental: "remove the restrictions that come with your mental prejudices and fears." The thread's distinction applied to other people rather than to one's own knowing. ### 2015-12-14 - [[2015-12-14 Free Will versus God's Will|Free Will versus God's Will]] Applies the distinction to knowing God's Will: "The faculties of the mind were not gifted to mankind for this purpose. The faculties of the soul, however, enlivened by God's Touch of Love are quite capable of understanding God's Will," with the soul informing the mind "in a harmonious balance." ### 2016-01-04 - [[2016-01-04 On Being a Comforter in This World|On Being a Comforter in This World]] Applies the soul-not-mind distinction to the motivation and intention behind service. ### 2016-01-24 - [[2016-01-24 Lesson on Soul-Desire|Lesson on Soul-Desire]] Frames the material mind as the chief obstacle - its clutter, fear, and sense of unworthiness obscuring the soul's true desire - and calls for disciplining the mind so the soul can commune directly with God. ### 2016-02-15 - [[2016-02-15 Forge That Path to Your Souls and Thereby to God|Forge That Path to Your Souls and Thereby to God]] Augustine sharpens the contrast: the mind is well-trodden, revered, and nurtured while the soul lies cloistered and encrusted; the mind's interpretations of God and self are distorted, but the soul enlivened by Divine Love perceives truths the mind cannot reach. To forge a path to the soul is to forge a path to God. ### 2016-03-10 - [[2016-03-10 Struggle of Soul and Mind|Struggle of Soul and Mind]] Augustine adds the practical decision-making dimension: facing a choice, the mind races through many plans and outcomes, but the seeker must go to the soul and ask there - choosing knowing over believing, seeing over creating a reality, peace over agitation. A soul-led step feels like gaining understanding, not losing control. Part of the tight Augustine mind/soul cluster with 2016-01-24 and 2016-02-15. ### 2016-03-10 - [[2016-03-10 Struggle of Mind|Struggle of Mind]] Confucius adds the free-will/willfulness angle: the mind's powers (free will, creative thought) burden the world when exerted without love; the soul must take precedence and inform the mind. Resolves not by rejecting the self but by strengthening the soul in Love through prayer. Companion to [[2016-03-10 Struggle of Soul and Mind|2016-03-10-af-augustine]], "Struggle of Soul and Mind." ### 2016-03-16 - [[2016-03-16 The Resonance of Love Amongst You|The Resonance of Love Amongst You]] Applies the distinction twice: in relationship, surface differences "are of the mind, yet the soul, the soul resonates with love," so one greets the soul beneath the foreign appearance; and in discernment, "the fantasies of your minds projecting how you will do God's Work will be replaced by a sure knowledge of your souls." ### 2016-03-17 - [[2016-03-17 You Must Be the Examples|You Must Be the Examples]] Sets the soul-flow method against mind-structure: rather than "creating a structure within your mind which in its way restricts and contains the Will of God," one conveys "the wisdom that is inherent within this flow that comes from your souls." Names the daily work of strengthening "that channel of information that comes from your soul to your mind." ### 2016-03-27 - [[2016-03-27 Mediumship, Communication and Rapport|Mediumship, Communication and Rapport]] Seretta Kem gives the communication mechanism: a truth held wordlessly in the soul must travel up into the material mind, where it is "filtered and distorted by those conditions within the mind" - the encrustations, biases, and fears narrow the passage, so what arrives is incomplete, not so much error as a partial picture. "The truths of the mind are transient and often illusionary but the truth of the soul is solid and can be relied upon." As the soul grows the channel clears, until "the mind capitulates and allows this greater, deeper consciousness to inhabit all aspects of the mortal." Applies the mind-soul distinction specifically to how knowing crosses from soul to consciousness; adjacent to the integration end-state the thread's Chrysalis candidates describe (2018-06-18, 2018-10-09), but framed through the communication channel rather than the merging itself. ### 2016-03-28 - [[2016-03-28 The Power of Commitment|The Power of Commitment]] Adds the complication-versus-simplicity angle: the mind "wishes to elaborate, to bring more complex ideas into the matter," "the mind will forever dance in this desire to complicate," while "It is the soul that understands and accepts and is satisfied - fulfilled if you will, by the simple Truth." Ties the distinction to commitment - the seeker wavers because the mind complicates a simple truth the soul has already accepted - and looks toward the integrated end-state where "your souls will inform your mind," anticipating the thread's Chrysalis candidates without fully opening that vista. Joseph (earthly father of Jesus) frames it through his own Earth-life failure to commit to his son's simple Truths because "the tenets of my religion made it difficult." ### 2016-04-02 - [[2016-04-02 Jesus' Ministry and the Teachings of Divine Love|Jesus' Ministry and the Teachings of Divine Love]] The migration doctrine: consciousness migrates "bit by bit" to soul awareness; the soul mind "begins to operate with the infusion of God's Love"; and the endpoint claim that "an angel redeemed in Love does not require a material mind." NOTE for build: this sits in sequence with, not against, the 60/40 harmony teaching (2018-05-17), "your mind will find its place within this new world and be in harmony" is the mortal integration; dispensability is the redeemed angel's estate. The Chrysalis section will want these ordered as stages. ### 2016-05-02 - [[2016-05-02 Two Paths Towards Love and Purification|Two Paths Towards Love and Purification]] A facet no current member carries: mental resolution counterfeits soul resolution, so an issue can be genuinely settled in the mind while untouched in the soul, "within the mind these issues are settled but within the soul they are not," with therapy named as the instance. Distinct from [[2018-12-17 Many Believe That Their Mind Brings Soul Consciousness|2018-12-17-af-mary]] (Objection-removed: the mind counterfeits soul *consciousness*, so inner awareness is mistaken for soul knowing); Andrew's counterfeit is of *healing* rather than of awareness, and it carries a consequence Mary's does not, that the unresolved condition surfaces in spirit and must be paid for. Fence the two at build so the counterfeit facet is not collapsed into one. ### 2016-05-16 - [[2016-05-16 The Power of Thoughts|The Power of Thoughts]] Locates the obstacle outside the person: externally sourced informational overload ("the mind is overstimulated, with too much information") with deliberate withdrawal as the remedy ("isolating yourself from the bombardment of all this stimulation"). Closest member [[2016-01-24 Lesson on Soul-Desire|2016-01-24-af-augustine]] (internally generated clutter, fear, unworthiness); Simon adds the external source and prescribes withdrawal from stimulation rather than inner discipline alone. ### 2016-07-18 - [[2016-07-18 Pursuit of Truth|Pursuit of Truth]] The durability axis as the message's spine: mental constructions are "but a shadow of truth," "the mind, the material mind, is incapable of knowing it in this way," against "that great mind that lies within your soul, activated." Closest member [[2017-08-21 Only the Soul Can Know God's Love|2017-08-21-af-matthew]] (the mind cannot articulate what the soul knows); new facet: the mind's constructions are not merely inadequate but impermanent and self-replacing, which is why they cannot serve as a foundation. The adjacent [[2016-07-11 Pray Daily|2016-07-11-af-confucius]] durability claim stands as a witness beneath this entry. ### 2016-08-19 - [[2016-08-19 Blessings Are with You in Your Travels|Blessings Are with You in Your Travels]] The agency axis: the mind's failure here is not perception but governance, "You are so used to having control, to being on top of things, as you call it, and I tell you God is in control," with the soul named "the proactive force within your lives." Closest member [[2017-08-21 Only the Soul Can Know God's Love|2017-08-21-af-matthew]]; new facet: where [[2017-08-21 Only the Soul Can Know God's Love|2017-08-21-af-matthew]] asks what each faculty can know, this one asks which faculty is allowed to direct a life. ### 2016-08-25 - [[2016-08-25 The Difference Between Mind and Soul|The Difference Between Mind and Soul]] The constitution-and-hardening axis: every current member describes what the mind does wrong; Matthew describes what it is made of. Whatever the intellect pours in "colors that water and in some cases changes the composition of that water," so the mind's consciousness is constituted by its own inputs and sets over time into "an evolving and somewhat crystalizing way of viewing the world," while the soul is light whose substance brightens by absorbing God rather than by receiving contents from man. Closest member [[2016-07-18 Pursuit of Truth|2016-07-18-af-martin-luther]] (durability). Weigh at build against [[2018-12-02 All Truth Comes from the Soul - Part 2|2018-12-02-af-augustine]] (the mind "constructs reality"): adjacent, but that entry concerns a materialist framework's instability, not the mind's own composition changing with its inputs, and it carries no hardening claim. ### 2016-08-27 - [[2016-08-27 A Description of the Soul and Its Enduring Nature|A Description of the Soul and Its Enduring Nature]] The apologetic facet, the soul defined against a materialist account the circle had just heard: "It is not a linear process; it is not synaptic; it is not chemical; it does not have the mechanisms so clearly understood by the sciences... there is no material aspect to the soul," the consequence drawn ("If this man's theories were correct, then upon your death you would be as nothing") and answered ("the soul retains your individualized consciousness forever"). Every current member argues from inside the teaching; this argues from outside it. Closest members [[2016-08-25 The Difference Between Mind and Soul|2016-08-25-af-matthew]] (the composition axis, positively) and [[2018-12-02 All Truth Comes from the Soul - Part 2|2018-12-02-af-augustine]] (framework instability, without the survival argument). ### 2016-09-05 - [[2016-09-05 Be Secure upon the Path|Be Secure upon the Path]] The conflict described across a population rather than inside one person, with a consequence attached. "And some fall away because they are not strong enough. Others excel because within them is a deep trust and faith in God. But most waver from one to the other; the mind and soul, the mind and the soul, trying in their own way to make sense of the truth," with the resolution stated as an order of governance, "in time your lives are governed by your soul and your soul is governed by God." Nearest to it is [[2016-08-25 The Difference Between Mind and Soul|2016-08-25-af-matthew]], which describes what the mind is made of and how it hardens. Where that message looks at the faculties, this one spreads the outcomes across people, most of them wavering, and attaches the practical consequence that God uses the instruments who let the soul take precedence. ### 2016-09-14 - [[2016-09-14 Being in the Light Takes Conscious Effort|Being in the Light Takes Conscious Effort]] The divergence read as cost. "And often this is in conflict with the state of your soul, for your soul is in Light, it continues to engage in its progression, its shedding of conditions that are not in harmony with God's Love. It expands and grows each time you pray to God to receive this Gift of Love and yet through your free will you often place your consciousness within these mindful areas and emotions that are not productive and are counterproductive towards your soul growth." Nearest to it is [[2016-08-19 Blessings Are with You in Your Travels|2016-08-19-af-andrew]], on which faculty is permitted to direct a life. What is added is that the two faculties can hold opposite conditions at the same time, and that the placement of consciousness is itself a free-will act with a price attached to the soul's growth. Worth setting beside [[2016-03-17 You Must Be the Examples|2016-03-17-af-alec-gaunt]], which carries the same simultaneity under [[Chains/Soul Expiation|Soul Expiation]] as reassurance, the soul growing even when the mind cannot perceive it. Augustine reads the identical structure as a warning. The same observation with opposite pastoral force. ### 2016-10-29 - [[2016-10-29 The Soul Longs for God's Love|The Soul Longs for God's Love]] Andrew adds two things. First, an explanation of why the mind ends up in charge: not that it overpowers the soul, but that the soul is left untended. "The soul in most is neglected, unrecognized, un-nurtured and so the soul languishes as the mind has control and precedence and provides the modus operandi for one's life." Second, and this is what earns the message its place, he runs the argument at the scale of the whole world: "If the entire world was motivated from their soul longings, from that place of soul, all of your dilemmas and darkness and error would disappear, for the soul intuitively knows what is right and good and loving." Rather than arguing the two faculties inside one person, this one makes the mind's dominance the explanation of the world's darkness, and the soul the cure. Nearest to it is [[2018-03-02 Allow the Soul to Have Its Say|2018-03-02-af-andrew]], where the same spirit says the soul's wisdom must be allowed to rise above the mind's calculations. ### 2017-08-21 - [[2017-08-21 Only the Soul Can Know God's Love|Only the Soul Can Know God's Love]] Matthew corrects a specific misconception about the two faculties, which is that feeling belongs to the emotions and thinking to the mind, with the soul left out of the account. "The minds of men find it difficult to speak of feelings, suggesting that a mind cannot feel, rather it perceives a Truth as thoughts. This is untrue when it comes to the understandings of the soul, for a soul can feel its understanding, its comprehension of a Truth. For when a soul understands a Truth, all aspects of that soul are engaged." So soul-knowing is not a thought and not an emotion; it is a comprehension that arrives as feeling because the whole soul is engaged in it. The limit of the intellect follows: "Can the intellectual describe Love? No, one must feel Love to understand it," and the message's door, "A thousand words, a million books will never truly bring this Truth as it is experienced by that deep Touch from God." Notably he does not discard the mind. The prayer engages everything, "engaging your emotional self, engaging your material mind and engaging the perceptions of your soul," which puts this closer to the integration messages ([[2018-10-09 The Integration of the Material Mind with the Soul Mind|2018-10-09-af-seretta-kem]]) than to the messages that set mind against soul. ### 2018-03-02 - [[2018-03-02 Allow the Soul to Have Its Say|Allow the Soul to Have Its Say]] Guidance is coloured by the condition of the one receiving it, "any guidance or communication from the angels that you may receive, all that that bubbles up from your soul into your mind, is not entirely pure," so the seeker must ask "how much of this is truly in accord with Love and with God's Will and how much reflects my own condition." The mind "greatly desires to dissect and delineate and make things either black or white," and the two ways of knowing stay divided "Until the condition of your mind and the condition of your soul is merged into Light and Love." (Also cited for the thread in the [[2019-02-18 Be Receptive to God and the Celestial Angels|2019-02-18-af-augustine]] NOTE.) ### 2018-10-09 - [[2018-10-09 The Integration of the Material Mind with the Soul Mind|The Integration of the Material Mind with the Soul Mind]] The reversal of the thread's usual picture, worth logging separately because it is easy to lose. Elsewhere the mind is the obstacle and the soul the authority. Here the newly awakened soul is the weaker party, tender and vulnerable, and the mind's accumulated strength, love, wisdom and knowledge are what it needs in order to express itself at all. The mind is still described as resisting, "The resistance of your mind is beginning to be assuaged by the influence of love," but it is a partner rather than an adversary. ### 2018-11-28 - [[2018-11-28 All Truth Comes from the Soul|All Truth Comes from the Soul]] How the soul knows, set against how the mind builds: "The mind of the soul absorbs truth. It does not work diligently to construct complex concepts and ideas of what it considers reality. This is how the mind operates." It gives a test for what others say, "take it to your soul. Come to know that familiar feeling and knowing from within that will affirm a truth that the mind may be speculating upon," and carries the mind's power past death: spirits too "have found a truth that they have created of themselves and made a world real and substantial through their own creation." Closes on the two minds collaborating, "so that the material mind and the mind of the soul may collaborate and come to an understanding, a harmony, an integration." ### 2018-12-02 - [[2018-12-02 All Truth Comes from the Soul - Part 2|All Truth Comes from the Soul: Part 2]] Reality as the mind builds it: "Brick by brick, reality is formed. Yet this reality is more reliant upon the perceptions of the material mind than the absolute truth," so "humanity lives in a fog," and a reality made this way "is not stable nor is not absolute. It can be changed," open to manipulation. With practical counsel: "we discourage you somewhat to feed your mind, your material mind extensively. This does not help you to engage your soul." ### 2019-01-31 - [[2019-01-31 How Can a Person Receive Divine Love Without Knowing About It|How Can a Person Receive Divine Love Without Knowing About It?]] The mind as a restriction on reception, "The mind may indeed restrict, inhibit and constrict the inflowing of the Divine Love," while "The soul on its own accord can long for God and receive this gift as long as the mind does not obstruct this intention." ### 2019-01-31 - [[2019-01-31 Reincarnation and the Perception of It Proliferated by Many Yogis and Gurus of the East|Reincarnation and the Perception of It Proliferated by Many Yogis and Gurus of the East]] Reinforces that the soul knows truth where the mind perpetuates error. ### 2019-02-01 - [[2019-02-01 Faculties of the Soul|Faculties of the Soul]] Frames the dual consciousness (material mind vs. soul mind) and insists the soul's faculties must be experienced, not merely understood by the mind. Deepens the mind-vs-soul argument rather than founding or capping it. ### 2019-02-04 - [[2019-02-04 The Light Must Overcome the Darkness|The Light Must Overcome the Darkness]] States the hierarchy directly as a truth to be taught: "You must teach that the Truth of the soul is greater than the truth of the mind, that the power of Love is greater than the power of the will of humanity," and frames transformation as the soul finding "predominance over your minds." Adds the teaching-imperative dimension - the mind/soul distinction as something the seeker must actively convey to others. ### 2019-02-05 - [[2019-02-05 Feeling the Love|Feeling the Love]] Years of living through "the faculties of your material mind" dull sensitivity to a gift that is known "in a way of knowing that goes beyond the mind"; the soul receives regardless of the mind's recognition. Companion to the Augustine 2019-01-31 mind-soul note. ### 2019-02-18 - [[2019-02-18 Be Receptive to God and the Celestial Angels|Be Receptive to God and the Celestial Angels]] Applies the distinction to perception of the spirit world: to know the Celestial angels assigned to each earnest soul, one must "put aside your preconceptions, your mental expectations and barriers, and allow our presence to be felt and known by the senses that are not of the mind and the physical but of the soul and the heart." Insights then come "do not come from the mental faculties but from the faculties of the soul." Adds the soul-as-organ-of-perception facet specifically to sensing spiritual presence; the same soul-over-mind perception the thread develops elsewhere (cf. Andrew 2018-03-02, Seretta Kem 2019-01-30), here turned toward receptivity to the angels rather than toward judgment or knowing truth. ### 2019-03-03 - [[2019-03-03 Seek the Counsel of Your Soul|Seek the Counsel of Your Soul]] Adds a practice. Rather than framing the mind as obstacle or describing the integrated end-state, Keea Atta Kem gives a deliberate method for cultivating mind-soul harmony: "do you spend time communing with your soul? Do you allow your conscious mind to befriend your soul? Do you allow the language of love to be shared between mind and soul?" She casts this as a regular discipline - creating "a loving environment within you, where there is a resonance and a language of love" between the two - and reframes the mind not only as the barrier but as a potential ally: "use your mind in a most loving way and invite your soul to share its wisdom." Also supplies a specific application: physical pain and mental turmoil sit atop "a truth that you carry in your soul, a part of your soul that desires healing," so the courage to hear the soul's counsel is what releases it. Elaborates the thread toward befriending rather than merely subduing the mind. ### 2019-04-04 - [[2019-04-04 Awaken!|Awaken!]] Adds the resistance-and-retreat dynamic: the seeker mistrusts the soul's "newfound freedom," tests the higher perspectives "constantly" against the old earthly conditions, fears the shifts underway, and hurries "to the comfort of your old ways, clinging, reinforcing, embracing what is old and familiar." Names the contest directly - the mind's stubbornness, fear, and anger are "not a part of love but a part of fear" - and the treasures of the soul surface only "if the tyranny of the mind does not overpower the gentleness yet persistence of the soul." Closes on the integration end-state ("the mind and the soul are one and in harmony together"), restating the vista the thread's Chrysalis entries open; the distinct contribution is why integration is slow: the mind's fear-driven retreat. ### 2019-04-07 - [[2019-04-07 Walking God's Path of Divine Love Will Bring You Upon A Different Road|Walking God's Path of Divine Love Will Bring You Upon A Different Road]] Two facets. First, the control-precondition: the material mind "desires to know and to have all the information that it is able to receive before it allows such things to manifest through your being," and thereby blocks awareness of the soul's own gifts, which flow "not from the preparation of the mind, but the knowing of the soul." Second, the social dimension of the mind's resistance: the inclination "to walk in the world as others walk in the world... to not feel different," conformity as the mind's ally against the soul's awakening that sets a person apart. ### 2023-02-10 - [[2023-02-10 The Impediments of Soul Awakening|The Impediments of Soul Awakening]] The surface/material mind is a barrier of control over the underlying feelings and the soul; awakening means penetrating that barrier, "clearing the channel between the mind and the soul." Adds the desensitization/re-sensitization dimension to the mind-soul argument. ## Objection-removed ### 2017-08-21 - [[2017-08-21 Only the Soul Can Know God's Love|Only the Soul Can Know God's Love]] Removes the objection the thread's own doctrine invites, that if the soul knows in a particular way, there must be a particular experience to check yourself against. Matthew forbids exactly that: "One cannot say 'oh, you have received the Father's Love because you have experienced this or that.' No, my beloveds, the experience is unique for each soul." He names the failure mode as dogma forming out of shared testimony, which is how it would actually happen in a circle like his: "do not get caught up in a form of dogma that says 'oh if you experienced this, then you have received the Blessing of the Father's Love.'" And he closes the door on standardisation, "There is no formula for this. There is no standard." He will say what is common, "often in this Touch comes joy, comes upliftment, comes an opening and expansion within," but immediately denies it the status of a test. ### 2018-06-18 - [[2018-06-18 The Reality of the Soul Can Be Merged with the Mind|The Reality of the Soul Can Be Merged with the Mind]] Answers the fear that this shift is a kind of madness, which the thread invites by claiming an alternative perception of reality. Matthew names it directly rather than avoiding it: "The thought of shifting from that comfortable place of understanding the world can be intimidating and can bring fear. At times, those who have shifted a great deal to other realities are considered insane and require intervention." His answer is carefully qualified rather than dismissive, and he does not claim all such perception is sound: "Of course there are times when this is appropriate, but often the reality that those who are within it is valid but not common." He then gives the test that distinguishes the two, and it is Love: without it "there is no true purpose of shifting one's reality," and the perception is not sustained. ### 2018-12-17 - [[2018-12-17 Many Believe That Their Mind Brings Soul Consciousness|Many Believe That Their Mind Brings Soul Consciousness]] Clears the belief that the mind's inner awareness already is the soul's knowing: "the vast majority of souls in this world are enmeshed within the condition of the mind and believe this is the great reality of soul. It is not, my beloveds. It is a reality, one that is created by the mind but it is not the reality of the soul." The belief blocks the thread's integration argument, since a seeker who takes the mind's awareness for the soul's has no reason to look further. ## Reframe ### 2018-05-17 - [[2018-05-17 60-40 Soul Mind Guidance|60/40 Soul Mind Guidance]] Clarifies the circle's reading of an earlier guidance as a 60/40 split between soul and mind: "This is not the goal. The goal is to have the mind dominated by the soul at all times," while a mind "completely subjugated by the soul is an unrealistic expectation." The image is mixing paint, the soul yellow and the mind red making "a beautiful orange, a sunset orange," because "It is not one or the other... it is not soul or mind." The corrective the thread's integration end state needs cleared before it. ## Testimony ### 2016-11-27 - [[2016-11-27 The Value of Knowing Your Souls|The Value of Knowing Your Souls]] The chain's claim offered as evidence by a man who spent his Earth life on the mind's side of it and now reports back. "Things are so much clearer in these higher spheres and simpler and I see now that the power of God's Love is the ultimate blessing and truth and much of what I perceived when I was in the flesh was just a lot of clutter around this truth." He generalizes it, "as you progress and your souls expand in Love these things of the mind will have less importance and relevance. The things of your souls will be what comes forth and has power." And he leaves a test anyone can use: "When you come across a new concept, an idea, ask yourselves, how does this increase the love in my life... because all else, in many respects, is irrelevant." He is careful not to condemn his old habit, which the chain should keep: "I do not blame myself for immersing my mind in all of these aspects... It is the nature of your world to inform the mind." ## Chrysalis ### 2018-06-18 - [[2018-06-18 The Reality of the Soul Can Be Merged with the Mind|The Reality of the Soul Can Be Merged with the Mind]] Matthew reframes the thread's whole subject. The two minds are not a conflict to be won but two realities to be merged: "You have within you two minds my beloveds, the material mind and the soul mind. Each may entertain different realities at once, causing a great deal of confusion for those who are aware of both to try and reconcile these two realities." He then takes the seeker's disorientation, which the thread elsewhere treats as a problem, and recasts it as the beginning of an expedition: "You are the vanguards seeking to move forward. Scientists of the soul, discovering its mysteries and coming to a different Truth than what has been placed within your mind." The vista is stated three ways. It is unending, "It does not end. The awakening continues, the perceptions come one after the other, like waves on the ocean." It is permanent, which is the turn that makes this a Chrysalis rather than another Elaboration: "This reality is the reality that you will keep and will sustain you as you continue to grow within your souls," against the earlier warning that without Divine Love the shift "would become nothing more than a curiosity, a fleeting experience, an opening of perceptions of the soul that are not sustained." And it resolves rather than replaces: the merged state is "harmonizing the two and bringing a new perspective," with the mind fed by the soul rather than silenced, "the mind, that so wishes to be in charge of Truth and yet is wholly incapable of knowing the Truth of the soul without the soul awakened and feeding the mind with its perceptions." Closes on the promise, "eventually the veil is lifted and the true reality begins to take form within your consciousness." ### 2018-10-09 - [[2018-10-09 The Integration of the Material Mind with the Soul Mind|The Integration of the Material Mind with the Soul Mind]] Seretta Kem describes the two minds becoming one, and the thread's whole conflict dissolving in the process. The transformation begins in the soul but does not stay there: "touching every cell in your body, every system of your spirit body, every part of your physical mind and the mind of your consciousness is infused with the consciousness of the soul." The integration is then given as a sequence rather than an event. First a passage opens, "The connections are forged so that there is a clear passage of consciousness between the two and this is the first step." Then it is worn deeper by use, "wearing the passage more permanently within your consciousness." Then the two meet as equals, each supplying what the other lacks: the conscious mind gives "the strength that you carry in a conscious way, the love that you carry, the wisdom and knowledge that you carry," and "in return the soul gives deep and varied perceptions, profound wisdom, joy, and love." He is precise about what the awakening soul is like at this stage, and it is not what the thread's rhetoric would predict: "it is like a birthing, this awakening of the soul, this consciousness so tender and vulnerable, soft, and in need of the strength" the mind carries. Then the end state: "these parts of you begin to merge and blend until there comes a time, given enough of this gift of Divine Love within your soul, that all will merge into oneness. There will be no sense of separation. There will only be the singular consciousness of the soul mind merging with the material mind." And the vista beyond it, so that oneness is not mistaken for an ending: "even this is not the end but merely the beginning. Soul progression, soul consciousness does not end. It expands and grows with inflow of this Love, the eternal awakening towards at-onement with God." --- ## Also touches on this *These messages restate or echo the idea rather than carry it forward, so they sit alongside the thread rather than in it.* - **2015-05-11** [[2015-05-11 Seek the Knowledge of God's Creation Through Love|Seek the Knowledge of God's Creation Through Love]] (witness) - The mind's limit given as a missing dimension, "It is like looking at something with only two dimensions where there are many dimensions," and the soul as the source of what the mind lacks, "truly it is your souls that can impart knowledge and truth to your mind." States the thread's claim without developing it. - **2015-05-18** [[2015-05-18 Recognizing Your Two Selves, the Soul and the Material Mind|Recognizing Your Two Selves, the Soul and the Material Mind]] (build) - This message asks the human part "to essentially fall away in harmony with your soul's ascension," which sits against the Reframe at [[2018-05-17 60-40 Soul Mind Guidance|2018-05-17-af-augustine]], where the soul predominates within a blend rather than replacing the mind. The same spirit speaks both, and the Reframe can be read as refining this; worth weighing at build. - **2015-05-18** [[2015-05-18 Recognizing Your Two Selves, the Soul and the Material Mind|Recognizing Your Two Selves, the Soul and the Material Mind]] (witness) - The two-selves premise stated pastorally, "Do you recognize your two selves, the one which is human and the one which is your soul? When you are born these two selves are distinct," the human self hardened by the world while the soul yearns for God. Sits beneath the Foundation, [[2015-10-12 The Difference Between the Material Mind and the Soul Mind|2015-10-12-af-augustine]]. - **2015-08-17** [[2015-08-17 Jesus Speaks Seriously of Changes to Come - Be a Channel of Love through the Storms|Jesus Speaks Seriously of Changes to Come: Be a Channel of Love through the Storms]] (sighting) - "you seek to understand through the faculties of your mind rather than the perceptions of your souls," and "For the soul informs all. The soul is everything. And then the mind will be subjugated by the soul"; the message's own contributions are the call to prepare as refuges and the earth-changes premise. - **2015-08-17** [[2015-08-17 Seek out Your True Purpose|Seek out Your True Purpose]] (sighting) - The soul as the route to God stated as exclusive, "knowing your souls you are able to know God... There is no other way to at-onement with God. This is the way." - **2016-03-30** [[2016-03-30 A Lesson on the Power of Humility|A Lesson on the Power of Humility]] (witness) - Humility defined as the willful side yielding to the soul, "The mind in all its desire for control can only lead you so far upon this Path Divine, which is the way of the soul," so the seeker must "allow your willful side... to acquiesce to the desires of the soul and to acquiesce to God's Will." - **2016-05-16** [[2016-05-16 How Divine Love Changes the Soul|How Divine Love Changes the Soul]] (sighting) - "the mind of the soul which is completely separate from the material mind"; restates the Foundation material. - **2016-06-27** [[2016-06-27 Love with God's Heart of Love|Love with God's Heart of Love]] (sighting) - "revelations come and understanding blossoms without the struggle of the mind but the knowing of the soul"; the thread's core restated in brief; witness level. The message is short and primarily a blessing; light coverage is deliberate. - **2016-07-11** [[2016-07-11 Pray Daily|Pray Daily]] (witness) - The claim that what the soul takes in lasts ("that which you entertain within your minds... is transient and changeable, but that which you absorb within your souls... will remain forever"). Held at witness because [[2016-07-18 Pursuit of Truth|2016-07-18-af-martin-luther]], an Elaboration, makes the same point about what lasts as a whole-message argument, and each facet takes one member. - **2016-08-15** [[2016-08-15 Awaken from Your Slumbers|Awaken from Your Slumbers]] (sighting) - The exclusivity claim in one clause ("a depth of knowing and understanding the truth that cannot be had by any other means but this glorious benediction within your souls"); asserted, and Matthew already carries the positive form. - **2016-08-17** [[2016-08-17 The Minds of Men Hunger for the Reality that Words Create but the Soul Hungers for Love|The Minds of Men Hunger for the Reality that Words Create but the Soul Hungers for Love]] (witness) - "The minds of men hunger for the reality that words create but the soul hungers for Love. Which do you wish to feed, beloved friends?" - **2016-08-28** [[2016-08-28 Come Down to the River|Come Down to the River]] (sighting) - "remove the clothing of your mental assumptions... Release the judgements of your mind"; the mind-as-obstacle facet the thread holds many times over. - **2016-08-31** [[2016-08-31 Welcome to Frankfurt|Welcome to Frankfurt]] (witness) - The soul-to-mind directional phrasing; the argument is already carried by his own 2016-07-18 Elaboration, and the same passage does the work in the religious-error role above; not counted twice. - **2016-09-02** [[2016-09-02 Natural Love and Divine Love|Natural Love and Divine Love]] (witness) - The ineffability claim, "there are no true words to explain, to transfer to you the experience of this Touch"; [[2017-08-21 Only the Soul Can Know God's Love|2017-08-21-af-matthew]] carries it as a member; restated, so witness. - **2016-09-04** [[2016-09-04 God's Love Is the Key|God's Love Is the Key]] (witness) - The account of what the Love does to perception, "It draws your attention from the surface of your mind's perceptions of the world to a deeper place, a deeper understanding, where the layers of illusions fall away and the truth is revealed," with the cost named, that the first thing seen clearly is the darkness of the human condition. The same passage does the work in the entry above and is not counted twice. - **2016-09-09** [[2016-09-09 Put Away Your Shield and Your Armour and Lead with Love|Put Away Your Shield and Your Armour and Lead with Love]] (witness) - The same passage read for the faculty claim, that the material mind is where the vestiges persist after the soul has changed. The argument is carried by the entry above and is not counted twice. Recorded because [[2016-09-05 Be Secure upon the Path|2016-09-05-af-andrew]] is a member of that chain from the same spirit, and the two belong together: that one distributes outcomes across people, this one locates the residue in one faculty. - **2016-09-10** [[2016-09-10 Divine Love Will Change the World, Starting with You|Divine Love Will Change the World, Starting with You]] (sighting) - The same passage sets soul perception against mind perception in one clause. Not counted twice; recorded so the phrasing is findable. - **2016-09-12** [[2016-09-12 You Are Supported in Your Struggle|You Are Supported in Your Struggle]] (sighting) - The deadlock stated as cost, "as long as your mind continues to push and repress what must come forth you remain in a deadlock and in a dilemma in your being that saps your energy, your spiritual Light". - **2016-09-15** [[2016-09-15 The Reaction to Your Light|The Reaction to Your Light]] (sighting) - The mind-soul split applied to a third party rather than to the seeker, which is unusual for the thread. Carried above in the [[Chains/Judgment To Love|Judgment To Love]] role and not counted twice. - **2016-09-18** [[2016-09-18 I Will Lead You upon the Path|I Will Lead You upon the Path]] (sighting) - Speculation named as a mind activity to be set down, "Do not overburden your minds with speculation". - **2016-10-16** [[2016-10-16 The Opening of Your Soul Perceptions|The Opening of Your Soul Perceptions]] (witness) - The provenance of the mind's contents, and the consequence for choosing. "A mind that often is distorted and manipulated and is filled with the thoughts and ideas of another, implanted within each individual through their education and experience. This creates a certain reality of life that in some respects is illusionary, has no basis in truth", closing the loop, "Your choices then are based upon shadowy realities that are often filtered and manipulated by the mind and this in turn brings inaccurate decisions based on inaccurate perceptions." Nearest to it are [[2016-05-16 The Power of Thoughts|2016-05-16-af-simon]], the obstacle located outside the person as informational overload, and [[2016-08-25 The Difference Between Mind and Soul|2016-08-25-af-matthew]], the mind constituted by whatever is poured into it and hardening over time. Neither traces the contents to other people's ideas arriving through education, and neither carries the decision-consequence, that inaccurate perception yields inaccurate choice. Held at witness because both neighbouring facets are already held, by those two messages. - **2016-10-24** [[2016-10-24 Consider Your Progress|Consider Your Progress]] (witness) - The agency axis restated, "As your minds acquiesce to the will of your soul, the Light within your soul and as your soul becomes more in alignment with God's Will". Nearest to it is [[2016-08-19 Blessings Are with You in Your Travels|2016-08-19-af-andrew]], on which faculty is permitted to direct a life. - **2016-10-26** [[2016-10-26 Be Open to God's Touch|Be Open to God's Touch]] (witness) - Augustine turns the chain's premise into an instruction, and gives a reason for it: "put aside your expectations that are born of your mental ideas and go deeper to that place of your soul, that place is a place separate and different from your mind... for it is your soul that is the image of God, my beloveds. It is your soul that is able to truly know God and to recognize the blessing of His Love which is the essence of the Creator." The reason is the interesting part, that the soul can recognize God because it is made in God's image, which is a ground for the claim rather than a restatement of it. He states it in passing while telling the circle how to pray, so it sits alongside the chain; if a later message builds on it, it could move in. - **2016-11-29** [[2016-11-29 Your Capacity to Love Is Limited by Your Mind's Impediments|Your Capacity to Love Is Limited by Your Mind's Impediments]] (witness) - How the soul knows, "One cannot truly see without the eyes of the soul, one cannot truly know without the capacity of the soul awakened by the Love," set against a mind whose ideas about love are what limit it. - **2016-11-29** [[2016-11-29 The Budding Potentials of Our Souls|The Budding Potentials of Our Souls]] (sighting) - "if you could only see with the eyes of your soul, all of your worries and cares would fall away." - **2016-12-02** [[2016-12-02 Turn to the Soul Rather than the Mind|Turn to the Soul Rather than the Mind]] (witness) - The title's claim, "they use the instruments of their material minds too much, unaware that they must think deep within their souls," with the soul as where the knowing is, "the key is within your soul." - **2016-12-03** [[2016-12-03 Open Your Souls to God's Love|Open Your Souls to God's Love]] (sighting) - The Love known only by experiencing it, "none can describe completely for in order to know it you must experience it." - **2016-12-05** [[2016-12-05 Talks of the Challenges That Come with Soul Growth|Talks of the Challenges That Come with Soul Growth]] (witness) - Governance, "You must allow, as our dear brother prays, for your soul to take ascendency over your mind. This is the key," with the mind's yielding as the sign of progress, "your mind begins to acquiesce to your soul," and the conflict between them named as what makes life "very difficult and uncomfortable." - **2016-12-05** [[2016-12-05 Be Scientists of the Soul|Be Scientists of the Soul]] (witness) - The mind's grasp of truth traced to its sources, "it was subject to many interpretations within your mind which was a response to your life experience and what you know from this experience, the education you have received, the books you have read, the conversations you have had. But all of those were mirror reflections and shadows of truth," against the soul, "It is when your souls are awakened and the faculties of your souls have been exercised and utilized that you are fully able to understand truth in a way that your mind is not capable of." The mind is also given its place, "Indeed God gave you a material mind in order to have the capacity to understand material things," with the tension admitted, "I know this must seem contradictory," and named a balance, "It is a difficult balance." That bears on the roster's structural note on the two pictures of the mind. - **2016-12-06** [[2016-12-06 Talk on Mediumship - The Laws of Communication and Rapport|Talk on Mediumship: The Laws of Communication and Rapport]] (sighting) - The soul's wordless truth narrowed and distorted as it passes into the material mind, so no medium is perfect; shared with the [[2016-03-27 Mediumship, Communication and Rapport|2016-03-27-af-seretta-kem]] entry rather than a separate contribution here. - **2018-05-12** [[2018-05-12 Law of Compensation - Natural Compared with the Divine Path|Law of Compensation: Natural Compared with the Divine Path]] (witness) - The counterfeit facet running the other direction. Andrew 2016-05-02 has the mind settled while the soul is not; Luke has the soul healed while the mind still remembers, "Although the mind may retain these memories, the active energies... are indeed neutralized." The pair together give the full asymmetry: mental resolution does not reach the soul, and soul healing does not erase the mind's record. Asserted in one sentence here rather than developed, so witness, but flag for promotion if a message builds the asymmetry; the two read together would make a strong section. - **2018-06-26** [[2018-06-26 Release Judgment, Embrace Love|Release Judgment, Embrace Love]] (witness) - The soul healed while the mind keeps the old conditions running, "God will indeed heal you of these conditions, these hurts within the soul. But because of the well-worn patterns of the mind, these conditions continue to be active within the thought patterns of the material mind," so "The mind and the soul must progress in tandem." The same asymmetry as [[2018-05-12 Law of Compensation - Natural Compared with the Divine Path|2018-05-12-af-luke]]. - **2018-08-06** [[2018-08-06 Trust in the Wisdom of the Soul|Trust in the Wisdom of the Soul]] (witness) - Addressed to one man caught between the two, "So you struggle back and forth between mind and soul, between the two minds within you, and this causes a great deal of tension within," with the resolution placed in the soul's awakening, "This shall be resolved, my son, in time as your soul further awakens in the Love." It gives the soul's knowing as the test of what others say: not to adopt "what your mind believes is a sound argument, but your soul knows is not true," the same test as [[2018-11-28 All Truth Comes from the Soul|2018-11-28-af-augustine]]. - **2018-08-29** [[2018-08-29 What Brings Divine Love Mediumship|What Brings Divine Love Mediumship]] (sighting) - The integration of mind and soul as the gift matures. - **2018-09-30** [[2018-09-30 Time to Speak the Truth|Time to Speak the Truth]] (witness) - The integration end state promised, "that momentous revelation of soul awareness that will come and find its permanent place alongside your material mind, where they will co-exist in harmony and light," and earlier, "merging mind and soul into one harmonious and powerful being." Stated, not developed; [[2018-10-09 The Integration of the Material Mind with the Soul Mind|2018-10-09-af-seretta-kem]] carries it as the Chrysalis anchor. - **2018-11-28** [[2018-11-28 All Truth Comes from the Soul|All Truth Comes from the Soul]] (build) - Part 1 of a two-part teaching with [[2018-12-02 All Truth Comes from the Soul - Part 2|2018-12-02-af-augustine]]; read the two together at build. - **2018-12-02** [[2018-12-02 All Truth Comes from the Soul - Part 2|All Truth Comes from the Soul: Part 2]] (build) - Part 2 of a two-part teaching with [[2018-11-28 All Truth Comes from the Soul|2018-11-28-af-augustine]] ("All Truth Comes from the Soul"); read the two together at build. Read in full, Part 2 runs as one argument and serves two threads on different passages. - **2019-01-21** [[2019-01-21 Divine Love Path and Natural Love Path|Divine Love Path and Natural Love Path]] (witness) - "the opportunity to emerge from the realities of the mind to the truth of the soul," the succession asserted as humanity's next step; same claim as [[2016-08-31 Welcome to Frankfurt|2016-08-31-af-martin-luther]]. - **2019-01-26** [[2019-01-26 All Have Some Ability to Communicate with Angels|All Have Some Ability to Communicate with Angels]] (sighting) - The duality of reality between soul and mind. - **2019-01-30** [[2019-01-30 Jesus Assigns Spirit Guides|Jesus Assigns Spirit Guides]] (sighting) - The end state seen from the Celestial side, "the material mind, does not exist in our realm, within our beings. It has been completely absorbed and transformed by the power of God's Love so that we possess a mind, but the mind of the soul." - **2019-03-08** [[2019-03-08 The Highest Gift of All Is the Blessing of God's Love|The Highest Gift of All Is the Blessing of God's Love]] (sighting) - The choice to follow the soul's desire or let the material mind keep precedence, stated as the familiar choice rather than developed with a new facet.